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02-12-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shredderbeam
Laws of logic are just so. 2 + 2 = 4, in ALL circumstances. A circular square is, by definition, impossible. The super-natural/divine are no exception to this rule.
Also, I didn't show God with human characteristics. I showed him with just the characteristic of existence. That's all.
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From what we know, god can exist, or cannot exist. Maybe there is more past that. Maybe god exists only when people want him to? Maybe god is created with our minds, and we don't even know it. Maybe it is an idea many people have had, and discussed.
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02-12-2007, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Stefan
From what we know, god can exist, or cannot exist. Maybe there is more past that. Maybe god exists only when people want him to? Maybe god is created with our minds, and we don't even know it. Maybe it is an idea many people have had, and discussed.
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Ah, you have stumbled upon it. You see, my logic proves the existence of a God. Yet, that's all it proves, just a zero-dimensional point of existence. It says nothing about consciousness, morality, omnipotence, etc. This disproves the notion that there is nothing but the mind, for there will always be, at a minimum, that single point of existence.
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02-12-2007, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Shredderbeam
Does God literally exist in your mind?
Can you show where I made a logical inaccuracy?
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I'm not saying you made a logical inaccuracy. In my head that logic is flawed, it's basically saying just because you can think of something it's real, so in this case Unicorns are real, Bigfoot, Yetis, etc, etc.
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02-12-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler
I'm not saying you made a logical inaccuracy. In my head that logic is flawed, it's basically saying just because you can think of something it's real, so in this case Unicorns are real, Bigfoot, Yetis, etc, etc.
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The logic does not apply to unicorns because they are not unique beings. God is.
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02-12-2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shredderbeam
The logic does not apply to unicorns because they are not unique beings. God is.
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Not to mention that god is thought to exist at a supernatural level, whereas mythical creatures are "thought" to exist on the material level.
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02-12-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Shredderbeam
The logic does not apply to unicorns because they are not unique beings. God is.
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There are many, many different Gods though, I know we're talking about the Christian God, but still these Gods of other races/religions are thought of at the same uniqueness as Christians believe of God. So in reality, God is not a unique being because there is more then one god that people believe in.
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02-12-2007, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyler
There are many, many different Gods though, I know we're talking about the Christian God, but still these Gods of other races/religions are thought of at the same uniqueness as Christians believe of God. So in reality, God is not a unique being because there is more then one god that people believe in.
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But god exists to us in a supernatural sense, and I think that's the biggest difference. But then it makes the logic theoretical, and with theoretical logic you can prove almost anything.
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Originally Posted by Tyler
There are many, many different Gods though, I know we're talking about the Christian God, but still these Gods of other races/religions are thought of at the same uniqueness as Christians believe of God. So in reality, God is not a unique being because there is more then one god that people believe in.
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We could be talking about the Christian God, but it doesn't matter, for, as I have said, it is stripped of all attributes except for existence, making it applicable to any God ever conceived of.
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03-12-2007, 11:17 AM
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God must exists if not then what started life.
If not then who is hes father! what start the almigthy
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03-12-2007, 08:15 PM
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god has ALWAYS been there, he wasnt created, just like space goes on forever
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